Post by cherie on Jan 5, 2008 23:30:11 GMT -8
Okay folks, Today I learned of the shooting of CBER rescue mares Lavender and Meadow.
Lavender days before she was shot
Meadow days before her death
I am still absolutely stunned. While this may be "old news" to some, I think it bears careful consideration as a representative action reflecting the ethics of the organization.
Please read the "explanation" provided by the President of the CBER BOD. Then compare the action to two recommended ethical euthanasia protocals. Please share your opionion in the poll and by posting your thoughts in this thread.
Thank you in the memory of these two horses.
(In the following statement, the choice to underline a key phrase is mine.)
First, consider this:
Rationale for the shooting of CBER rescue mares Meadow and Lavender Provided on the Alex Brown Wiki
by Samantha Milbredt Panayotopulos, President of Columbia Basin Equine Rescue
=Questions from FOBs
Hi All -
I am going to respond once and will not monitor this thread so do not complain that I do not respond I am pressed for time as it is. Also this is going to be to the point and not my flowery bubby response as I am frustrated that this issue is still present.
I have been trying to save you all from these graphic details but you will not let this issue rest. So here we go.
Yes, Lavendar and Meadow were put down by a bullet to the head with the support from most of the CBER BOD. There were not shot in front of one another. They were both tranquilized because they would freak out if they were separated. Meadow was taken first as she would react more violent when separated, so it was decieded to put her down first before the drugs wore off. She was hauled out to a grassy field on a friend's 350 acre ranch and was put down while drousily eating grain. Lavendar was taken to another part of his property and put down in the same manner.
Why a bullet? I prefer this method for my own horses. I take all the horses in my care seriously. While death is not a fun topic it is part of life and what is importatnt to me is that the horse has no fear, does not suffer and rests in a digified place.
An unsuspecting bullet to the head of a tranquilized horse or a horse eating grain is the quickest, there is no fear and the horse is dead before it hits the ground or the noise of the bullet registers in your brain. The horses are laid to rest back in nature to be recycled naturally. To me a dignified end.
While Euthasol is a very effective drug, the process for CBER has its short comings. We do not have a renderer in this area so we are forced to put horses down in a trailer and dispose of them at a dump. First, what horse do you know that does not get nervous in a trailer? Second, what horse do you know that likes shots and vets? Third, once the drug is administered the horse colapses often violetly smacking his head on the trailer wall. While the horse is technically dead it is tramatic for the person holding the horse. Forth, transporting the horse to the dump. I will do just about anything for CBER but I WILL NOT HAVE DEAD HORSES IN MY TRAILER period. Fifth, disposing of the body at the dump. I have not taken a horse to the dump as no equine friend of mine is going to rot with yesterdays trash, but that is just my opinion.
Last time I witnessed a horse put down by Euthanol the horse did not die with the usual dosage and the horse was flopping around in the trailer. I REFUSE TO WITNESS THAT AGAIN.
This is my opinion and I stick by it as do most CBER volunteers do, because our options are not ideal. If someone wants their horse put down in another way I am happy to supply the vet, haulers and the dumps information but I will not assist in any other way.
Thanks for your time and eyes,
Sam
www.alexbrownracing.com/wiki/index.php/Columbia_Basin_Equine_Rescue
What are Equine Rescue Ethics?
Please consider the following:
Care Guidelines for Equine Rescue and Retirement Facilities
by the AAEP
VII. Euthanasia
The term euthanasia is derived from the Greek terms eu meaning good and thanatos meaning death. A good death would be one that occurs with minimal pain and at the appropriate time in the horse’s life to prevent unnecessary pain and suffering.
Justification for euthanization of a horse for humane reasons should be based on both medical considerations as well as current and future quality of life issues for the horse.
The following criteria (not all criteria need to be met for every case) should be considered in evaluating the necessity for euthanization of a horse1:
• Is the horse’s condition chronic, incurable and resulting in
unnecessary pain and suffering?
• Does the horse’s condition present a hopeless prognosis for life?
• Is the horse a hazard to itself, other horses or humans?
• Will the horse require continuous medication for the relief of pain and
suffering for the remainder of its life?
• If the horse is suffering but treatable, is proper and recommended
care of the horse within the means of the rescue/retirement
facility, such that the health and safety of the other horses are not
compromised?
• Is the horse constantly and in the foreseeable future unable to move unassisted, interact with other horses, or is exhibiting behaviors which may be considered essential for a decent quality of life?
Acceptable methods of euthanasia for horses include2:
• Overdose of a barbiturate anesthetic, given intravenously be a veterinarian or a euthanasia technician, trained, certified and experienced in the humane euthanasia of horses.
• Gunshot to the head of a calm, sedated or humanely restrained horse by a professional trained in this method.
• Penetrating captive bolt to the head of a calm, sedated or humanely restrained horse by a professional trained in this method.
1 “The Veterinary Role in Equine Insurance,” AAEP 2000, pg. 6.
2 Report of the AVMA Panel on Euthanasia, JAVMA 2001; 218: 669-695.23
www.aaep.org/press_room.php?id=176&term=2003
The Basic Guidelines for Operating an Equine Rescue or Retirement Facility
by the Doris Day Animal League and the Animal Welfare Institute.
HUMANE EUTHANASIA
Humane euthanasia shall be employed:
• When an equine is not mobile and a veterinarian is of the opinion that mobility
will not return;
• When the equine’s quality of life is deemed, with veterinary guidance, so
poor that euthanasia is the most humane option within the means of the organization;
• When an equine is experiencing continual pain for which there is no medical
relief or the relief is not within the financial capability of the facility;
• When an equine is affected by a degenerative medical condition for which
there is no cure; or
• When an equine is dangerous to him/herself or other animals or humans.
Euthanasia shall only be administered by a licensed veterinarian, except in emergency
circumstances where the equine is injured beyond recovery and is suffering
irreversibly. Carcass shall be disposed of in compliance with all relevant laws.
www.ddal.org/pdf/horseguidelines.pdf
After taking the time to read the above material, ask yourself - was the bullet to the brain of these sweet mares the act of an ethical rescue organization?
I'm modifying this thread on 4-7-08 because over the last two weeks much has come to light about the rescue that betrayed these two horses. It has been suggested that they were not shot, but returned to the slaughter pipeline - shipped through a feedlot different from the one where CBER operates.
This is not "factual" info. I hope it is not true. Please visit this BB to follow up on current info.
cberanswers.proboards56.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1207613917
If you haven't already read the 4-8-08 Fugly Blog - there is much more to learn
www.blogger.com/profile/14748297520774828265
Lavender days before she was shot
Meadow days before her death
I am still absolutely stunned. While this may be "old news" to some, I think it bears careful consideration as a representative action reflecting the ethics of the organization.
Please read the "explanation" provided by the President of the CBER BOD. Then compare the action to two recommended ethical euthanasia protocals. Please share your opionion in the poll and by posting your thoughts in this thread.
Thank you in the memory of these two horses.
(In the following statement, the choice to underline a key phrase is mine.)
First, consider this:
Rationale for the shooting of CBER rescue mares Meadow and Lavender Provided on the Alex Brown Wiki
by Samantha Milbredt Panayotopulos, President of Columbia Basin Equine Rescue
=Questions from FOBs
Hi All -
I am going to respond once and will not monitor this thread so do not complain that I do not respond I am pressed for time as it is. Also this is going to be to the point and not my flowery bubby response as I am frustrated that this issue is still present.
I have been trying to save you all from these graphic details but you will not let this issue rest. So here we go.
Yes, Lavendar and Meadow were put down by a bullet to the head with the support from most of the CBER BOD. There were not shot in front of one another. They were both tranquilized because they would freak out if they were separated. Meadow was taken first as she would react more violent when separated, so it was decieded to put her down first before the drugs wore off. She was hauled out to a grassy field on a friend's 350 acre ranch and was put down while drousily eating grain. Lavendar was taken to another part of his property and put down in the same manner.
Why a bullet? I prefer this method for my own horses. I take all the horses in my care seriously. While death is not a fun topic it is part of life and what is importatnt to me is that the horse has no fear, does not suffer and rests in a digified place.
An unsuspecting bullet to the head of a tranquilized horse or a horse eating grain is the quickest, there is no fear and the horse is dead before it hits the ground or the noise of the bullet registers in your brain. The horses are laid to rest back in nature to be recycled naturally. To me a dignified end.
While Euthasol is a very effective drug, the process for CBER has its short comings. We do not have a renderer in this area so we are forced to put horses down in a trailer and dispose of them at a dump. First, what horse do you know that does not get nervous in a trailer? Second, what horse do you know that likes shots and vets? Third, once the drug is administered the horse colapses often violetly smacking his head on the trailer wall. While the horse is technically dead it is tramatic for the person holding the horse. Forth, transporting the horse to the dump. I will do just about anything for CBER but I WILL NOT HAVE DEAD HORSES IN MY TRAILER period. Fifth, disposing of the body at the dump. I have not taken a horse to the dump as no equine friend of mine is going to rot with yesterdays trash, but that is just my opinion.
Last time I witnessed a horse put down by Euthanol the horse did not die with the usual dosage and the horse was flopping around in the trailer. I REFUSE TO WITNESS THAT AGAIN.
This is my opinion and I stick by it as do most CBER volunteers do, because our options are not ideal. If someone wants their horse put down in another way I am happy to supply the vet, haulers and the dumps information but I will not assist in any other way.
Thanks for your time and eyes,
Sam
www.alexbrownracing.com/wiki/index.php/Columbia_Basin_Equine_Rescue
What are Equine Rescue Ethics?
Please consider the following:
Care Guidelines for Equine Rescue and Retirement Facilities
by the AAEP
VII. Euthanasia
The term euthanasia is derived from the Greek terms eu meaning good and thanatos meaning death. A good death would be one that occurs with minimal pain and at the appropriate time in the horse’s life to prevent unnecessary pain and suffering.
Justification for euthanization of a horse for humane reasons should be based on both medical considerations as well as current and future quality of life issues for the horse.
The following criteria (not all criteria need to be met for every case) should be considered in evaluating the necessity for euthanization of a horse1:
• Is the horse’s condition chronic, incurable and resulting in
unnecessary pain and suffering?
• Does the horse’s condition present a hopeless prognosis for life?
• Is the horse a hazard to itself, other horses or humans?
• Will the horse require continuous medication for the relief of pain and
suffering for the remainder of its life?
• If the horse is suffering but treatable, is proper and recommended
care of the horse within the means of the rescue/retirement
facility, such that the health and safety of the other horses are not
compromised?
• Is the horse constantly and in the foreseeable future unable to move unassisted, interact with other horses, or is exhibiting behaviors which may be considered essential for a decent quality of life?
Acceptable methods of euthanasia for horses include2:
• Overdose of a barbiturate anesthetic, given intravenously be a veterinarian or a euthanasia technician, trained, certified and experienced in the humane euthanasia of horses.
• Gunshot to the head of a calm, sedated or humanely restrained horse by a professional trained in this method.
• Penetrating captive bolt to the head of a calm, sedated or humanely restrained horse by a professional trained in this method.
1 “The Veterinary Role in Equine Insurance,” AAEP 2000, pg. 6.
2 Report of the AVMA Panel on Euthanasia, JAVMA 2001; 218: 669-695.23
www.aaep.org/press_room.php?id=176&term=2003
The Basic Guidelines for Operating an Equine Rescue or Retirement Facility
by the Doris Day Animal League and the Animal Welfare Institute.
HUMANE EUTHANASIA
Humane euthanasia shall be employed:
• When an equine is not mobile and a veterinarian is of the opinion that mobility
will not return;
• When the equine’s quality of life is deemed, with veterinary guidance, so
poor that euthanasia is the most humane option within the means of the organization;
• When an equine is experiencing continual pain for which there is no medical
relief or the relief is not within the financial capability of the facility;
• When an equine is affected by a degenerative medical condition for which
there is no cure; or
• When an equine is dangerous to him/herself or other animals or humans.
Euthanasia shall only be administered by a licensed veterinarian, except in emergency
circumstances where the equine is injured beyond recovery and is suffering
irreversibly. Carcass shall be disposed of in compliance with all relevant laws.
www.ddal.org/pdf/horseguidelines.pdf
After taking the time to read the above material, ask yourself - was the bullet to the brain of these sweet mares the act of an ethical rescue organization?
I'm modifying this thread on 4-7-08 because over the last two weeks much has come to light about the rescue that betrayed these two horses. It has been suggested that they were not shot, but returned to the slaughter pipeline - shipped through a feedlot different from the one where CBER operates.
This is not "factual" info. I hope it is not true. Please visit this BB to follow up on current info.
cberanswers.proboards56.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1207613917
If you haven't already read the 4-8-08 Fugly Blog - there is much more to learn
www.blogger.com/profile/14748297520774828265